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DEATHMASTER · Nov 27, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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You guys are all a bunch of babies for complaining about chest drops. Just play the darn game. If they were all golds, the market would be flooded & nothing would be worth anything.

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Ambuu · Nov 27, 2007, 01:36 AM // 01:36

I think that chests should be buffed a bit more. at least lower the percentage of purple spawns.

I've broken of 50 lock picks on worthless purples. purples that's be 50g max to merchants. (from hard mode chests)
doesn't seem fair

DarkGanni · Nov 27, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Nothing to me is more irritating than farming in Hard Mode, finding a locked chest, and not only breaking the lockpick, but the chest spawning a PURPLE. Who wants purples in hard mode? They should be golds, tomes, gems, etc. Not purples. It's one thing if they drop from monsters, but they shouldn't drop from chests. Who agrees with me?

More than agreed

/signed

DarklingKiller · Nov 27, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

/not signed

Just because you get a bunch of purples from chests doesn't mean the drop rate is broken. I've had plenty of Chest Runs where purples drop on every chest and some where only 1 or 2 drop. It's basically all about luck. I've sometimes make money after I lose all my picks and sometimes I lose money. It's just a game after all. If you don't want purples from chests, then you should just stop opening them.

circuscalamity · Nov 27, 2007, 03:23 AM // 03:23

>AGREED<

Hardmode chests are crap. Lockpicks are 1.5k. There is a thin line between "A gamble" and down right stealing.

Str0b0 · Nov 27, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

Honestly I thought the whole chest randomization was pretty stupid to begin with. At least when they were all either gold or purple it encouraged team play. I remember many a UW run where we all took turns testing chests and if someone got a purple chest then someone else would chip in a spare key to offset their sacrifice for the team. Oddly enough back then there was no economic crash because of all gold or all purple chests. While I hold no hope for them ever reverting that boneheaded idea at least skewing the drop to favor golds in HM would be a step in the right direction.

/signed

arsie · Nov 27, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

Yeah. There's only 2 gambles in this game: Salvaging and Lock-picks.

Most other games give you a bunch of pretty high stakes gambles. Take a little risk with your life (or be like me and save keys for HM, where it hurts more to "break on a grape"). Lock-pick serves an unsung purpose. Without lock-picks, you'll have to carry around a whole bunch of differnet keys = less storage.

Anet obviously did not have an economist in their ranks when they started off. Greenspan still had a job then.

MithranArkanere · Nov 27, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Weapon prices is what should be fixed:

(all prices for a perfect req 9 item with no upgrades)
- White: Not identified max 1. Identified min: 75
- Blue: Not identified max 5. Identified min: 125
- Purple: Not identified max 10: Identified min: 200
- Gold: Not identified max 25: Identified min: 300

Then add the extra values for upgraes and the price changes for more/less quality and done. Bots don't get much gold from not identified items, and we get a bit more cash from identified ones.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 27, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16

/not signed for making all chest drops gold. Even in HM just suck it up
/signed for making lockpicks HM only.
/signed for fixing it so that mods make sense to what drops.
That was a slightly off topic thing but I am getting sick of drops from chests not making much sense.
Like a shield of healing?

Chronos the Defiler · Nov 27, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Weapon prices is what should be fixed:

(all prices for a perfect req 9 item with no upgrades)
- White: Not identified max 1. Identified min: 75
- Blue: Not identified max 5. Identified min: 125
- Purple: Not identified max 10: Identified min: 200
- Gold: Not identified max 25: Identified min: 300

Then add the extra values for upgraes and the price changes for more/less quality and done. Bots don't get much gold from not identified items, and we get a bit more cash from identified ones.

why would you identify a white item?

tyche7 · Nov 27, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14

I agree...especially in hard mode in GW:EN (an already "elite" or lvl 20 only area). In fact, most of my chests (about 95% in gwen) are purples with a req higher than 11 (unusable). Oh boy!!

Angelica · Nov 27, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by aapo

/not signed

Purple is my favorite color.

/signed.

Green and gold are my favorite colours .......I'm Australian after all!

/Angelica

Master Sword Keeper · Nov 28, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35

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Originally Posted by Angelica

Green and gold are my favorite colours
.......I'm Australian after all!

/Angelica

Aussie Aussie Aussie!

oi oi oi.

Nothin better than an Aussie mate.

/signed. Wtf is wrong with NCsoft and Anet lately.

Everytime i go out HM'in nothin but the graapes.
Start repairing what you broke. As for golds I dont care what I get as long there's some kind of Up'g i can use.
nuff sed.

Yawgmoth · Nov 28, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

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95%++ of the golds are already straight merchant food and that's mostly because of Hard Mode's ridiculous golds drop chances, including chests. You crybabies only want more and more of easier and easier best drops and you can't realise that it really hurts the game by making the best stuff near worthless. There's already a massive overabundance of golds and you want even more... Ehh good old Prophecies times when gold drops were actually rewarding and in demand...

wetsparks · Nov 28, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler

why would you identify a white item?

it significantly raises the prices of some items from 45-50g to sometimes 100g+ but mostly to th 70-80g range.

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

/NOT signed

95%++ of the golds are already straight merchant food and that's mostly because of Hard Mode's ridiculous golds drop chances, including chests. You crybabies only want more and more of easier and easier best drops and you can't realise that it really hurts the game by making the best stuff near worthless. There's already a massive overabundance of golds and you want even more... Ehh good old Prophecies times when gold drops were actually rewarding and in demand...

That does't make much sense. If most golds are merchant junk anyways, all increasing gold chances and decreasing purple chances would do is +1 to wisdom. So right now "95%++" are merchant junk, it would go up to 98%++ is merchant junk. and how is making "the best stuff" have a higher chance of dropping bad? because people who farm them won't make a million a week now?

Anduin · Dec 02, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by Kong

The chests are fine.

You don't want to break lockpicks? Increase your titles.
You don't want to get purples? Stop opening chest.

I have 58% chance of retention in normal mode, where I am forced to use lockpicks (Eye of the North) and I break 30 out of 40 on the first try. Not just random occurance. This has been happening since I bought the expansion. That doesn't jive with my near 60% of retention, but apparently it isn't a problem according to you people.

legobildermike · Dec 02, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

i do agree.. but what you're asking anet to do is impossible. It reverses loot scaling

Loot Unscaled: S Elemental Sword F (perfect) 100k+xxx ectos/etc
Or

Loot Scaled: Same item 100k+Xx ectos/etc

what would u rather pay?

however 50% retain rate actually needs 2 seem like 50%

neoezekiel · Apr 29, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

/signed

I opened 100 chests this weekend to get a gauge of the drop rates,
91 purples
5 golds
4 Normal tomes
I wanted to cry, b/c I only retained 10 lockpicks out of 100 tries with lucky 2 treasure hunter 3 and wisdom 4

shogun avatar · Apr 29, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by legobildermike

Loot Unscaled: S Elemental Sword F (perfect) 100k+xxx ectos/etc
Or
Loot Scaled: Same item 100k+Xx ectos/etc

what would u rather pay?

however 50% retain rate actually needs 2 seem like 50%

I'd rather have items that cost 100k+xxx ectos, to actually look forward to and gold item (wich is rare as it is).

I do agree with retantion rate though

/signed

StormDragonZ · Apr 29, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

/signed only if people will shut up about Hard Mode this and Hard Mode that.